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From an email from http://frontsight.com/

After watching Obama address the nation on gun control, I have to congratulate his speech writers for a masterful job. That speech, delivered by Obama as he read directly from his teleprompters, may have been the best written speech I have ever heard to lull free Americans into giving up their weapons and thus surrender their collective power to the Federal Government.

A semi-automatic rifle with high capacity magazine is the ultimate balance of power we must always maintain as an individual right of every law abiding, responsible citizen. If we give up our rifles, we give up our ability to keep the government in line.

Of course the problem with Obama’s speech is that NOTHING he said will decrease violent crime or stop psych drugged lunatics from continuing to commit mass murders. It all sounded warm and fuzzy, but Obama and Biden purposely avoid the RIGHT target to stop mass murders because of the all the money that is poured into the Democratic party by the companies who are responsible for creating the monsters who murder without remorse or reality.

Want to know the common denominator in EVERY mass shooting of completely innocent people who happened to be in the wrong “Gun Free Zone” at the wrong time?

Look at this revealing table of information…

Click on the blue ‘What’ to access a story. Click on a red column heading to sort the index by that column.

What

Drug

Date

Where

Additional

School Stabbing

Med For Depression 2011-10-25 Washington **Girl, 15, Stabs Two Girls in School Restroom: 1 Is In Critical Condition
School Shooting

Zoloft Antidepressant & ADHD Med 2011-07-11 Alabama **14 Year Old Kills Fellow Middle School Student
School Shooting

Meds For Depression & ADHD 2011-03-18 South Carolina **Teen Shoots School Official: Pipe Bombs Found in Backpack
School Massacre Plot

Prozac Withdrawal 2011-02-23 Virginia **Teen Sentenced to 12 Years in Prison For Columbine Style Plot
School Hostage Situation

Med For Depression 2010-12-15 France **17 Year Old with Sword Holds 20 Children & Teacher Hostage
School Incident/Bizarre

Zoloft* 2010-08-22 Australia **School Counselor Exhibits Bizarre Behavior: Became Manic On Zoloft
School Knifing/Murder

Meds For Depression & ADHD 2010-04-28 Massachusetts **Sixteen Year Old Kills 15 Year Old in High School Bathroom in Sept. 2009
School Shooting

SSRI 2010-02-19 Finland **On Sept. 23, 2008 a Finnish Student Shot & Killed 9 Students Before Killing Himself
School Shooting Threats

Celexa Antidepressant 2010-01-25 Virginia **Senior in High School Theatens to Kill 4 Classmates: Facebook Involved: Bail Denied
School Hostage Situation

Cymbalta Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 2009-11-09 New York **Man With Gun Inside School Holds Principal Hostage
School/Assault

Antidepressant 2009-11-04 California **School Custodian Assaults Student & Principal: Had Manic Reaction From Depression Med
School Shooting Plot

Antidepressants 2009-09-22 England **Two English School Boys Plot to Blow Up High School
School Bomb Threat

Med For Depression 2009-06-29 Australia **Vexed Father Makes Bomb Threat Against Elementary School
School Shooting

Med For Depression 2009-03-13 Germany **16 Dead Including Shooter: Antidepressant Use: Shooter in Treatment For Depression
School Knife Attack

Treatment For Depression & Strattera 2009-03-10 Belgium **Three Dead in School Day Care: Two Children & a Caregiver: Happened Jan 23, 2009
School Shooting Plot

Med For Depression WITHDRAWAL 2008-08-28 Texas **18 Year Old Plots a Columbine School Attack
School Threat/Lockdown

Lexapro* 2008-04-18 California **Violent High School Student Shot to Death on Campus by Police
School Threat

Antidepressants 2008-03-20 Indiana **Teen [16 Years Old] Brings Gun to School: There Is a Lockdown
School Stabbing

Med For Depression 2008-02-29 Texas **Teen [17 Year Old GIRL] Stabs Friend & Principal at High School
School / Child Endangerment

Antidepressants 2008-02-27 Canada **Wacky School Bus Driver Goes Berserk: Also Involved Painkillers
School Suicide/Lockdown

Med For Depression 2008-02-20 Idaho **Teen [16 Years Old] Kills Self at High School: Lockdown by Police
School Shooting

Prozac WITHDRAWAL 2008-02-15 Illinois ** 6 Dead: 15 Wounded: Perpetrator Was in Withdrawal from Med & Acting Erratically
School Threat

Prozac Antidepressant 2008-01-25 Washington **Student Takes Loaded Shotgun & 3 Rifles to School Parking Lot: Plans Suicide
School Shooting

Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 2007-11-07 Finland **Student Kills 8: Wounds 10: Kills Self: High School in Finland
School Shooting

Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 2007-10-12 Ohio **Teen [14 Years Old] School Shooter Possibly on Antidepressants or In Withdrawal
School Suspension

Lexapro Antidepressant 2007-07-28 Arkansas **Student Has 11 Incidents with Police During his 16 Months on Lexapro
School Threat

Wellbutrin Antidepressant 2007-04-24 Tennessee **Young Boy, 12, Threatens to Shoot Others at School
School Threat

Antidepressants 2007-04-23 Mississippi **Student Arrested for Making School Threat Over Internet
School Shooting

Antidepressant? 2007-04-18 Virginia **Possible SSRI Use: 33 Dead at Virginia Tech
School Knife Attack

Med for Depression 2006-12-06 Indiana **Teen Knife Attacks Fellow Student
School Stabbing

Wellbutrin 2006-12-04 Indiana **Stabbing by 17 Year Old At High School: Charged with Attempted Murder
School Hostage Situation

Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 2006-11-28 North Carolina **Teen Holds Teacher & Student Hostage with Gun
School Shooting

Antidepressant 2006-09-30 Colorado **Man Assaults Girls: Kills One & Self
School Shooting

Celexa Antidepressant 2006-08-30 North Carolina **Teen Shoots at Two Students: Kills his Father: Celexa Found Among his Personal Effects
School Hostage Situation

Med for Depression 2006-03-09 France **Young Ex-Teacher Holds 21 Students Hostage
School/Assault

Zoloft Antidepressant 2006-02-15 Tennessee **Teen Attacks Teacher at School
School Violence

Antidepressant 2005-11-19 Arizona **Violent 8 Year Old GIRL Handcuffed by Police at School
School Shooting

Prozac Antidepressant 2005-03-24 Minnesota **10 Dead: 7 Wounded: Dosage Increased One Week before Rampage
School Violence

Paxil 2004-10-23 Washington DC **Young Boy, 10 Year Old, Has Violent Incidents at School
School Shooting Threat

Med for Depression* 2004-10-19 New Jersey **Over-Medicated Teen Brings Loaded Handguns to School
School Shooting

Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant 2004-02-09 New York **Student Shoots Teacher in Leg at School
School Shooting Threat

Antidepressant 2003-05-31 Michigan **Teen Threatens School Shooting: Charge is Terrorism
School Shooting/Suicide

Celexa 2002-10-07 Texas **Young Girl [13 Years Old] Kills Self at School With a Gun
School Arson Incidents

Paxil 2002-04-12 Michigan **Unusual Personality Change on Paxil Caused 15 Year Old to Set Fires inside High School
School Violence

Celexa Antidepressant 2002-01-23 Florida **Violent 8 Year-Old Boy Arrested At School
School Shooting

Antidepressant? 2002-01-17 Virginia **Possible SSRI Withdrawal Mania: 3 Dead at Law School
School Hostage Situation

Paxil 2001-10-12 North Carolina **Young Man Holds Three People Hostage in Duke University President’s Office
School Machete Attack

Med for Depression 2001-09-26 Pennsylvania **Man Attacks 11 Children & 3 Teachers at Elementary School
School Stabbings

Antidepressants 2001-06-09 Japan **Eight Dead: 15 Wounded: Assailant Had Taken 10 Times his Normal Dose of Depression Med
School Shooting

Celexa & Effexor Antidepressants 2001-04-19 California **Teen Shoots at Classmates in School
School Hostage Situation

Paxil & Effexor Antidepressants 2001-04-15 Washington **Teen Holds Classmates Hostage with a Gun
School Shooting

Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant 2001-03-10 Pennsylvania **14 Year Old GIRL Shoots & Wounds Classmate at Catholic School
School Hostage Situation

Prozac/ Paxil Antidepressants 2001-01-18 California **Teen [17 Years Old] Takes Girl Hostage at School: He is Killed by Police
School Threats

Prozac Antidepressant 1999-10-19 Florida **Teen [16 Years Old] Threatens Classmates With Knife & Fake Explosives
School Shooting

Luvox/Zoloft Antidepressants 1999-04-20 Colorado **COLUMBINE: 15 Dead: 24 Wounded
School Shooting Threat

Antidepressant 1999-04-16 Idaho **Teen Fires Gun in School
School Shooting Plot

Med For Depression 1998-12-01 Wisconsin **Teen Accused of Plotting to Gun Down Students at School
School Shooting

Prozac Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 1998-05-21 Oregon **Four Dead: Twenty Injured
School Violence/Murder

Antidepressants* 1998-05-04 New York **Sheriff’s Deputy Shoots his Wife in an Elementary School
School Stand-Off

Zoloft Antidepressant 1998-04-13 Idaho **Teen [14 Years Old] in School Holds Police At Bay: Fires Shots
School Shooting

Zoloft Antidepressant 1995-10-12 South Carolina **15 Year Old Shoots Two Teachers, Killing One: Then Kills Himself
School Murder Attempt

Med For Depression 1995-03-04 California **Young Woman Deliberately Hits 3 Kids with Her Car at Elementary School: Laughed During Attack
School Shooting Related

Luvox 1993-07-23 Florida **Man Commits Murder During Clinical Trial for Luvox: Same Drug as in COLUMBINE: Never Reported
School Shooting

Antidepressants 1992-09-20 Texas **Man, Angry Over Daughter’s Report Card, Shoots 14 Rounds inside Elementary School
School Shooting

Prozac Antidepressant 1992-01-30 Michigan **School Teacher Shoots & Kills His Superintendent at School
School Shooting

Anafranil Antidepressant 1988-05-20 Illinois **29 Year Old WOMAN Kills One Child: Wounds Five: Kills Self


** Indicates a school shooting or school incident.
* Indicates a legal case won using SSRI defense.
++ Indicates an important journal article.
+ Indicates a highly publicized case.
num An age < 25 covered by FDA black box for suicide.

What is the common denominator? IT’S NOT GUNS.

Whenever you are trying to correct a bad statistic, you must analyze ALL of the factors that may be causing the unacceptable problem you are trying to correct. There may be several factors, but ONE, is the RIGHT TARGET to attack which will cause an immediate correction of the problem.

Find the RIGHT Target, attack it, and the bad statistic immediately and positively responds.

Attack the wrong target and the bad situation will not improve, and in many cases gets worse.

In analyzing statistics of mass shootings, there are several factors (targets) that have been talked about as the cause of the shootings, including access to guns, lack of proper mental health care, violence in movies, television, and video games.

The danger in lumping all of these factors into the “cause” of mass shootings is that it appeases the public and tricks them into thinking “something has been done” but it hides the RIGHT target and mass shootings not only do not stop, they become more frequent and deadlier.

Isn’t that EXACTLY what we have seen over the last 40 years? We have picked the wrong target, because had we selected the right target and attacked it 40 years ago, mass shootings would have stopped. But they have not stopped, they have become more frequent and more deadly.

So what have we targeted as a society to try to stop these mass murders that have clearly been the wrong target?

Guns are the wrong target.

Why?

Because prior to these shootings, there were just as many guns per capita and there was unrestricted access to semiautomatic weapons, even for young adults and kids. But even more evidence that guns are the wrong target is the undeniable fact that in towns, cities, schools, and shopping malls, where guns have been severely restricted and in some cases outright banned, the statistic of murder, HAS NOT DROPPED, IT HAS INCREASED!

Even greater evidence that proves guns are the wrong target is found in towns, cities, schools and shopping malls where law abiding, responsible citizens are allowed to carry concealed weapons. In those areas where guns are the least restricted we see the statistic of murder and violent crime HAS DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY.

So if the RIGHT TARGET IS NOT GUNS, what is the right target? …

Well, let’s first look at the other targets being offered up… Violence in TV, Mo

What

Drug

Date

Where

Additional

School Stabbing

Med For Depression    2011-10-25    Washington    **Girl, 15, Stabs Two Girls in School Restroom: 1 Is In Critical Condition
School Shooting

Zoloft Antidepressant & ADHD Med    2011-07-11    Alabama    **14 Year Old Kills Fellow Middle School Student
School Shooting

Meds For Depression & ADHD    2011-03-18    South Carolina    **Teen Shoots School Official: Pipe Bombs Found in Backpack
School Massacre Plot

Prozac Withdrawal    2011-02-23    Virginia    **Teen Sentenced to 12 Years in Prison For Columbine Style Plot
School Hostage Situation

Med For Depression    2010-12-15    France    **17 Year Old with Sword Holds 20 Children & Teacher Hostage
School Incident/Bizarre

Zoloft*    2010-08-22    Australia    **School Counselor Exhibits Bizarre Behavior: Became Manic On Zoloft
School Knifing/Murder

Meds For Depression & ADHD    2010-04-28    Massachusetts    **Sixteen Year Old Kills 15 Year Old in High School Bathroom in Sept. 2009
School Shooting

SSRI    2010-02-19    Finland    **On Sept. 23, 2008 a Finnish Student Shot & Killed 9 Students Before Killing Himself
School Shooting Threats

Celexa Antidepressant    2010-01-25    Virginia    **Senior in High School Theatens to Kill 4 Classmates: Facebook Involved: Bail Denied
School Hostage Situation

Cymbalta Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL    2009-11-09    New York    **Man With Gun Inside School Holds Principal Hostage
School/Assault

Antidepressant    2009-11-04    California    **School Custodian Assaults Student & Principal: Had Manic Reaction From Depression Med
School Shooting Plot

Antidepressants    2009-09-22    England    **Two English School Boys Plot to Blow Up High School
School Bomb Threat

Med For Depression    2009-06-29    Australia    **Vexed Father Makes Bomb Threat Against Elementary School
School Shooting

Med For Depression    2009-03-13    Germany    **16 Dead Including Shooter: Antidepressant Use: Shooter in Treatment For Depression
School Knife Attack

Treatment For Depression & Strattera    2009-03-10    Belgium    **Three Dead in School Day Care: Two Children & a Caregiver: Happened Jan 23, 2009
School Shooting Plot

Med For Depression WITHDRAWAL    2008-08-28    Texas    **18 Year Old Plots a Columbine School Attack
School Threat/Lockdown

Lexapro*    2008-04-18    California    **Violent High School Student Shot to Death on Campus by Police
School Threat

Antidepressants    2008-03-20    Indiana    **Teen [16 Years Old] Brings Gun to School: There Is a Lockdown
School Stabbing

Med For Depression    2008-02-29    Texas    **Teen [17 Year Old GIRL] Stabs Friend & Principal at High School
School / Child Endangerment

Antidepressants    2008-02-27    Canada    **Wacky School Bus Driver Goes Berserk: Also Involved Painkillers
School Suicide/Lockdown

Med For Depression    2008-02-20    Idaho    **Teen [16 Years Old] Kills Self at High School: Lockdown by Police
School Shooting

Prozac WITHDRAWAL    2008-02-15    Illinois    ** 6 Dead: 15 Wounded: Perpetrator Was in Withdrawal from Med & Acting Erratically
School Threat

Prozac Antidepressant    2008-01-25    Washington    **Student Takes Loaded Shotgun & 3 Rifles to School Parking Lot: Plans Suicide
School Shooting

Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL    2007-11-07    Finland    **Student Kills 8: Wounds 10: Kills Self: High School in Finland
School Shooting

Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL    2007-10-12    Ohio    **Teen [14 Years Old] School Shooter Possibly on Antidepressants or In Withdrawal
School Suspension

Lexapro Antidepressant    2007-07-28    Arkansas    **Student Has 11 Incidents with Police During his 16 Months on Lexapro
School Threat

Wellbutrin Antidepressant    2007-04-24    Tennessee    **Young Boy, 12, Threatens to Shoot Others at School
School Threat

Antidepressants    2007-04-23    Mississippi    **Student Arrested for Making School Threat Over Internet
School Shooting

Antidepressant?    2007-04-18    Virginia    **Possible SSRI Use: 33 Dead at Virginia Tech
School Knife Attack

Med for Depression    2006-12-06    Indiana    **Teen Knife Attacks Fellow Student
School Stabbing

Wellbutrin    2006-12-04    Indiana    **Stabbing by 17 Year Old At High School: Charged with Attempted Murder
School Hostage Situation

Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL    2006-11-28    North Carolina    **Teen Holds Teacher & Student Hostage with Gun
School Shooting

Antidepressant    2006-09-30    Colorado    **Man Assaults Girls: Kills One & Self
School Shooting

Celexa Antidepressant    2006-08-30    North Carolina    **Teen Shoots at Two Students: Kills his Father: Celexa Found Among his Personal Effects
School Hostage Situation

Med for Depression    2006-03-09    France    **Young Ex-Teacher Holds 21 Students Hostage
School/Assault

Zoloft Antidepressant    2006-02-15    Tennessee    **Teen Attacks Teacher at School
School Violence

Antidepressant    2005-11-19    Arizona    **Violent 8 Year Old GIRL Handcuffed by Police at School
School Shooting

Prozac Antidepressant    2005-03-24    Minnesota    **10 Dead: 7 Wounded: Dosage Increased One Week before Rampage
School Violence

Paxil    2004-10-23    Washington DC    **Young Boy, 10 Year Old, Has Violent Incidents at School
School Shooting Threat

Med for Depression*    2004-10-19    New Jersey    **Over-Medicated Teen Brings Loaded Handguns to School
School Shooting

Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant    2004-02-09    New York    **Student Shoots Teacher in Leg at School
School Shooting Threat

Antidepressant    2003-05-31    Michigan    **Teen Threatens School Shooting: Charge is Terrorism
School Shooting/Suicide

Celexa    2002-10-07    Texas    **Young Girl [13 Years Old] Kills Self at School With a Gun
School Arson Incidents

Paxil    2002-04-12    Michigan    **Unusual Personality Change on Paxil Caused 15 Year Old to Set Fires inside High School
School Violence

Celexa Antidepressant    2002-01-23    Florida    **Violent 8 Year-Old Boy Arrested At School
School Shooting

Antidepressant?    2002-01-17    Virginia    **Possible SSRI Withdrawal Mania: 3 Dead at Law School
School Hostage Situation

Paxil    2001-10-12    North Carolina    **Young Man Holds Three People Hostage in Duke University President’s Office
School Machete Attack

Med for Depression    2001-09-26    Pennsylvania    **Man Attacks 11 Children & 3 Teachers at Elementary School
School Stabbings

Antidepressants    2001-06-09    Japan    **Eight Dead: 15 Wounded: Assailant Had Taken 10 Times his Normal Dose of Depression Med
School Shooting

Celexa & Effexor Antidepressants    2001-04-19    California    **Teen Shoots at Classmates in School
School Hostage Situation

Paxil & Effexor Antidepressants    2001-04-15    Washington    **Teen Holds Classmates Hostage with a Gun
School Shooting

Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant    2001-03-10    Pennsylvania    **14 Year Old GIRL Shoots & Wounds Classmate at Catholic School
School Hostage Situation

Prozac/ Paxil Antidepressants    2001-01-18    California    **Teen [17 Years Old] Takes Girl Hostage at School: He is Killed by Police
School Threats

Prozac Antidepressant    1999-10-19    Florida    **Teen [16 Years Old] Threatens Classmates With Knife & Fake Explosives
School Shooting

Luvox/Zoloft Antidepressants    1999-04-20    Colorado    **COLUMBINE: 15 Dead: 24 Wounded
School Shooting Threat

Antidepressant    1999-04-16    Idaho    **Teen Fires Gun in School
School Shooting Plot

Med For Depression    1998-12-01    Wisconsin    **Teen Accused of Plotting to Gun Down Students at School
School Shooting

Prozac Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL    1998-05-21    Oregon    **Four Dead: Twenty Injured
School Violence/Murder

Antidepressants*    1998-05-04    New York    **Sheriff’s Deputy Shoots his Wife in an Elementary School
School Stand-Off

Zoloft Antidepressant    1998-04-13    Idaho    **Teen [14 Years Old] in School Holds Police At Bay: Fires Shots
School Shooting

Zoloft Antidepressant    1995-10-12    South Carolina    **15 Year Old Shoots Two Teachers, Killing One: Then Kills Himself
School Murder Attempt

Med For Depression    1995-03-04    California    **Young Woman Deliberately Hits 3 Kids with Her Car at Elementary School: Laughed During Attack
School Shooting Related

Luvox    1993-07-23    Florida    **Man Commits Murder During Clinical Trial for Luvox: Same Drug as in COLUMBINE: Never Reported
School Shooting

Antidepressants    1992-09-20    Texas    **Man, Angry Over Daughter’s Report Card, Shoots 14 Rounds inside Elementary School
School Shooting

Prozac Antidepressant    1992-01-30    Michigan    **School Teacher Shoots & Kills His Superintendent at School
School Shooting

Anafranil Antidepressant    1988-05-20    Illinois    **29 Year Old WOMAN Kills One Child: Wounds Five: Kills Self

**     Indicates a school shooting or school incident.
*    Indicates a legal case won using SSRI defense.
++    Indicates an important journal article.
+    Indicates a highly publicized case.
num    An age < 25 covered by FDA black box for suicide.

What is the common denominator? IT’S NOT GUNS.

President Kennedy speaks out against secrecy in government

I think he does a great job in this speech. He gives good guidelines for all politicians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IxNw8OhmVZE

I hope that isn’t why he was killed.

Thoughts on the Slippery Slope of discarding the Church’s teachings on sexuality

People have denounced “The Slippery Slope” argument as a logical fallacy, and perhaps it is in some cases, depending upon how it is used, but there are many instances where in fact embarking upon a particular path leads to fairly predictable consequences. The argument can of course get quite heated when people disagree over where such actions will ultimately lead, but I think we’ve seen multiple examples where the warnings of embarking upon a slippery slope have indeed been quite prescient, despite vehement protestations to the contrary.

You’ve undoubtedly guessed where I’m heading with this, given the title of the thread, but one such example is with human sexuality. Pope Paul VI had warned of the dire consequences of disregarding God’s Law/natural law/moral law, of deliberately separating the intrinsic meaning of the conjugal act, in his encyclical, HUMANAE VITAE (On The Regulation Of Birth).

He was roundly criticized and derided for those predictions, and yet, over time, his warnings have proven tragically correct. Those who railed against Our Lord’s teachings, as explicated by His Church, on the other hand, have been shown to be glaringly wrong in their predictions.

They felt contraception would strengthen marriages and drastically reduce, if not eliminate abortions. “Every child a wanted child.” was a common rallying cry. In fact, quite the opposite has happened. Divorce, teen pregnancy, child abuse, venereal diseases and abortions have become rampant. Rather than a great liberation for women, it has become a tool for their subjugation.

Sex, stripped of its primary purpose, begetting children, has become a meaningless lust for pleasures, often enslaving its worshippers as sin so often does.

That lust for pleasure, unmoored from its true meaning eventually lead to the homosexuality movement which would have left the founding fathers of our nation and their descendants, up until a few decades ago aghast. Such ideas as homosexual “marriages” would have been so foreign to them as to make the idea so absurd no one would have even considered it.

When a small cadre of homosexual advocates began pushing so hard to “normalize” homosexual activity, they vociferously criticized anyone who pointed to the slippery slope our culture had already been sliding down.

Archbishop Fulton Sheen had warned some time ago that tearing down God’s law did not actually free people, but rather than enslaved them. He used an analogy of children on an island with a secure fence around the area in which they lived. They were happy and relatively carefree, until someone started agitating for tearing down this fence which limited them. It kept their balls from rolling away, but also kept them from the ability of exploring the island and going wherever they wanted.

Over the objections of some they eventually tore down the fence.

But then dangerous animals killed some of the children and others fell off of cliffs, or got stuck in quicksand and so on. Eventually, they all ended up huddled together in their little clearing afraid to go anywhere because of the new dangers that lurked everywhere. The fence was not put there to limit them and take away their fun, but to provide them security and safety. In fact, it was an instrument for allowing them to most fully enjoy the gifts they had, and tearing it down eventually brought them much misery.

In similar fashion, some have agitated for tearing down the moral boundaries which have protected western societies for many centuries, while others have warned of the inherent dangers of doing so. They first asserted that we only needed to tear down the moral laws proscribing artificial contraception, and then only in extreme cases. But those rare cases quickly turned into a flood as the moral laws came tumbling down. Then came the battle over abortion, which some had predicted was the next stop on the slippery slope, while others ridiculed them for being so reactionary and hysterical. There was no way society would accept something so absurd, they maintained. But as we all know, the absurd became the law of the land… a “Constitutional Right” in fact that overrode all state and local laws to the contrary.

Then came the battle over “normalizing homosexual behavior”, which some had predicted would be the next “logical step” if sex was indeed to be artificially separated from its primary intended purpose and pursued for its pleasurable aspects alone. Once again many ridiculed them for being so reactionary and hysterical. There was no way society would accept something so absurd.

But once again, the moral boundaries were rapidly torn down, and what was deemed so absurd became “the new normal” and those who objected were suddenly rejected for holding to the moral standards society had embraced for millenia.

Unfortunately, things haven’t stopped there. Those who fought against the normalization of homosexual behavior warned that the slippery slope continued much further. They warned that if one were to continue the arguments for normalizing homosexual activity, that line of reasoning would lead to things like acceptance of things like sado masochism, bestiality, pedophilia and incest among others. Quite predictably they were attacked and denounced as extremists and haters and of course the Slippery Slope argument was held up as a fallacy as though it “proved” their theories were wrong, and their worries unfounded.

But once again, “the reactionaries” were right. Society has continued down that same path they have been warning against for so long. For instance, more and more professional manuals and studies from prestigious organizations such as the American Psychological Association which conclude that pedophilia (some call it “intergenerational love”) may not be harmful for the children:

“The authors’ conclusion? That childhood sexual abuse is on average, only slightly associated with psychological harm–and that the harm may not be due to the sexual experience, but to the negative family factors in the children’s backgrounds. When the sexual contact is not coerced, especially when it is experienced by a boy and is remembered positively, it may not be harmful at all.

The authors of the article propose that psychologists stop using judgmental terms like “child abuse,” “molestation,” and “victims,” using instead neutral, value-free terms like “adult-child sex.” Similarly, they say we should not talk about the “the severity of the abuse,” but instead refer to “the level of sexual intimacy.

The authors conclude that behavior which psychotherapists commonly term “abuse” may only constitute a violation of social norms. And science, they say, should separate itself from social-moral terminology. Religion and society, these writers argue, are free to judge behavior as they wish…but psychiatry should evaluate behavior by its own set of standards. (1) (2) (3)

Then we had the spectacle of the head of Princeton University’s ethics department, Peter Singer, advocating dropping the taboos against bestiality:

“Not so long ago, any form of sexuality not leading to the conception of children was seen as, at best, wanton lust, or worse, a perversion. One by one, the taboos have fallen. The idea that it could be wrong to use contraception in order to separate sex from reproduction is now merely quaint. If some religions still teach that masturbation is “self-abuse,” that just shows how out of touch they have become. Sodomy? That’s all part of the joy of sex, recommended for couples seeking erotic variety. …” (4)

“…In other words, according to Singer’s preference utilitarianism, bestiality is ethically correct as long as (1) it is not cruel; (2) if it satisfies the mutual preferences of those affected (i.e., the human and the animal); and (3) if it has the best consequences for the greatest number of people involved (i.e., the total amount of “pleasure” experienced in the world would be increased). ”(5)

On September 11th Lifesite News ran the story whose headline is reused for this thread,

‘The Notebook’ director says if we back gay marriage, why not incest?

Defenders of marriage have long said if the institution is redefined beyond one man and one woman, there is no clear end to the new combinations that could be considered “marriage.” A growing body of evidence shows the popular culture, led by Hollywood elites, do not intend to stop with same-sex unions.

Nick Cassavetes, the director of the romantic film The Notebook, told reporters at the debut of his new film that incest is no different than allowing same-sex weddings.

“Love who you want, isn’t that what we say? Gay marriage – love who you want,” he said.

“If you’re not having kids, who gives a damn?” the son of legendary director John Cassavetes and actress Gena Rowlands asked in an interview

Meanwhile, a celebrity gossip rag has become the latest publication to support polygamy and polyandry.

In a column entitled “Three Shouldn’t be a Crowd,” the digital tabloid The Frisky stated, “Polygamy and polyamory get a bad rap.”

Carrie Nelson wrote, “Opening marriages and expanding what makes a marriage…may well end up saving relationships and the institution as a whole.”

The call for broadening the number of people in a marriage has intensified since a judge in Sao Paolo, Brazil, registered a three-person “stable union” last month.

The decision led UK Guardian writer Jean Hannah Edelstein to ask, “If three, or four, or 17 people want to marry each other simultaneously and equally, why should they not be granted the same status as two people who want to become a legal family?” Banning such an arrangement would be “a bit illiberal,” she said. … (6)

It would appear that the battle for the control of our culture is far from over. Many are already calling it a Post-Christian society, but I don’t think the Culture of Death has fully prevailed yet, though it has certainly been winning some key battles. I think more and more people are beginning to see the ongoing slide back towards a pagan culture and are fighting against that slide.

Christians are called to be “the salt of the earth”, and a light on a lampstand, and the number of Christians and their influence on culture is far greater than it was in pagan Rome before it was converted. Christians also seemed to overcome insurmountable odds to convert Europe which later became known as Christendom. Christianity also seems to be growing in Africa and perhaps in Asia so there are some signs of hope despite the obvious slide of the Church’s influence on the culture in the western world in our present day and age. Although it’s sad to see where we’re headed, we can truly and securely put our trust in the Lord. We know after all Who wins this war in the end.

Endnotes:

1. The Problem of Pedophilia
www.narth.com/docs/pedophNEW.html

See also:

2. On the Pedophilia Issue: What the APA Should Have Known
By Joseph Nicolosi, Ph.D. and Dale O’Leary
http://www.narth.com/docs/whatapa.html

3. The APAs: ‘Academic Pedophile Advocates’
by Dr. Judith Reisman
http://www.wnd.com/1999/03/2723/

4. Heavy Petting Peter Singer Nerve, 2001
http://www.utilitarian.net/singer/by/2001—-.htm

5. Reading The Singer on “Bestiality”
Dianne Irving, PhD
http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/irv/irv_23singerglobalethics.html

6. ‘The Notebook’ director says if we back gay marriage, why not incest?
by Ben Johnson Tue Sep 11, 2012
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/the-notebook-director-says-if-we-back-gay-marriage-why-not-incest

Todd Akin’s linguistic errors in regards to a rape exception in abortion laws

There’s no question that Todd Akin stuck his foot in his mouth, but despite his very poor choice of words, and his apparent misunderstanding of the biological workings of a woman’s body after a rape, I think his policy with regard to abortion, even in cases of rape is the right one.

I think his very poor choice of words, “legitimate rape”, shouldn’t be as big of an issue as many are making it out to be. I can’t imagine that anyone honestly thinks he meant there are instances where he thinks rape is “legitimate” as in “acceptable”. Anyone listening to his interview in the context of the question about possible exceptions for rape in abortion laws knew or should have known that he was contrasting cases where women were actually raped as opposed to claiming they were raped when in fact they weren’t.

Rebecca Kiessling, an author, attorney and pro-life speaker, and who was herself conceived in rape, said in a recent interview that Mr. Akin, like other pro-life politicians did a poor job of defending his position, but it is still the right one.

She noted that the problem of trying to determine what is a “legitimate rape” is caused by the “rape exceptions” in many abortion bills and by things like the Hyde Amendment which forces states to pay for abortions for victims of rape or of incest. That obviously gives women who want an abortion an incentive to say that they have been raped even in cases in which they have not. One such example was Norma McCorvey, the “Roe” in the infamous “Roe v Wade” landmark Supreme Court decision throwing out all of the State laws against abortion claimed she had been raped, but later admitted that she had made the story up.

Unfortunately, when there are incentives for people to lie, some people will in fact do so. It is unpleasant to talk about such things and it can be rather tricky to discuss such topics without making a misstep or having people misinterpret what one is saying, or in some cases to even have enemies try to spin what was said into something else entirely.

Congressman Akin shouldn’t have brought that possibility of lying/fraud up during the questioning on his position on abortion in case of rape, even tangentially as he did. It obviously was an extremely poor way of expressing himself, but even more to the point, it was unnecessary to show that his position was in fact the only moral one. As Rebecca Kiessling noted in her interview on Issues, etc., the courts have ruled that the death penalty was “cruel and unusual punishment” for rapists, and therefore prohibited by law. If it is too cruel for even the most vicious of rapists, why should we give the death penalty to innocent children?

I think Mr. Akin’s clumsy attempt at shortening the phrase, “In rapes where the woman is not lying or exaggerating” to “legitimate rapes” was regrettable, but no worse than many other things politicians and celebrities have said that were virtually ignored by the media in contrast to the outrage and vicious attacks leveled at Congressman Akin who quickly apologized for his poor choice of words.

I was more shocked that he thought that a woman’s body had some sort of defense mechanism to help keep her from getting pregnant. But despite his misunderstanding the fact of the matter is that it is relatively rare for women to get pregnant from a rape. http://bit.ly/SjVg4k

Perhaps that is because many women are on birth control at the time they are raped, or because many are treated at hospitals or doctor’s offices where they can be treated and various methods of contraception like spermicides, cleansings etc. can be used. Even the Catholic Church has issued directives allowing the use of contraceptives in the case of rape (but not abortifacients). http://bit.ly/PV7Jw8

My guess is that he was talking at some political rally where some doctor or nurse said that conception after rape was a rare occurrence anyway, and he tucked that away in his mind misconstruing things such that he felt it was brought about by a natural process in the woman’s body.

But despite his misunderstanding, however that came about, the point he was trying to make in that interview still stands… conception via rape is relatively rare in the U.S.

Of course the fact that it’s rare isn’t really a satisfying reason for prohibiting abortion in cases of rape, and it certainly isn’t the real reason it’s against the moral law. Recognizing and pointing out its relative rarity might help deflect a bit of the attention the pro abortion crowd pays to “the hard cases”, but how common or rare something is is no guide for determining whether it is moral or sinful.

The bottom line is that abortion is the deliberate killing of an innocent human being. (1), (2), (3) For a Christian, the ends can never justify the means. We can never use evil means to bring about good ends. The deliberate killing of an innocent human being is inherently evil. Therefore we cannot intentionally kill an innocent human being/commit an abortion to bring about a desired good, such as, but not limited to eliminating a reminder of a brutal rape, allowing one to continue their education, etc.

Perhaps it shouldn’t surprise us that attempts to thwart the natural law – God’s law – is not satisfying in the final analysis. Attempting to remove the memory by killing the child in fact tends to intensify it and burn the memory into his/her mother’s conscience, causing much more agony over time than the rape. (4),(5) But that is a by product of railing against God’s law, not the reason that it is wrong.

Endnotes:

  1. When does life begin?Senate Judiciary subcommittee hearings April 23-24, 1980 http://buchholzins.com/cir/whenlifebegins.senate.html
  2. When do human beings (normally) begin?”scientific” myths and scientific facts http://lifeissues.net/writers/irv/irv_01lifebegin1.html
  3. “My intent in every abortion I have ever done isto kill the fetus and terminate the pregnancy.” Leroy Carhart testimony, The Abortionist Speaks – –  Stenberg vs Carhart
  4. Abortion Cures Rape? www.pregnantpause.org/aborted/curerape.htm
  5. Abortion as a Traumatic Experience http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/bur/bur_11chap8abortiontrauma2.html

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